Seiler, Heini (d. 1529) - Revision history

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 Müller, Ernst. ''Geschichte der Bernischen Täufer''. Frauenfeld: Huber, 1895; reprinted Nieuwkoop : B. de Graaf, 1972: 44.
 = Bibliography for Update =
-Haas, Martin, ed. ''Aargau – Bern – Solothurn.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 3. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 2008: #132, #156, #341, #342, #396, #398, #399, #402.
+Haas, Martin, ed. ''Aargau – Bern – Solothurn.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz [QGTS], Bd. 3. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 2008: #132, #156, #341, #342, #396, #398, #399, #402.
-Haas, Martin, ed. ''Drei Täufergespräche.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 4. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 1974: 60-65.
+Haas, Martin, ed. ''Drei Täufergespräche.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz [QGTS], Bd. 4. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 1974: 60-65.
 {{GAMEO_footer|hp=Vol. 4, p. 498|date=April 2020|a1_last=Neff|a1_first=Christian|a2_last=Snyder|a2_first=C. Arnold}}
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 Haas, Martin, ed. ''Drei Täufergespräche.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 4. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 1974: 60-65.
-{{GAMEO_footer|hp=Vol. 4, p. 498|date=1959|a1_last=Neff|a1_first=Christian|a2_last=Snyder|a2_first=C. Arnold}}
+{{GAMEO_footer|hp=Vol. 4, p. 498|date=April 2020|a1_last=Neff|a1_first=Christian|a2_last=Snyder|a2_first=C. Arnold}}
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 Heini (Heinrich) Seiler, an [[Anabaptism|Anabaptist]] martyr, a hatter of Aarau, Switzerland, who suffered death by drowning at [[Bern (Switzerland)|Bern]] in July 1531 together with Hans Seckler and [[Dreier, Hans (d. 1529)|Hans Dreier]]. He was one of the eight Anabaptists who had planned to take part in the great religious colloquy of 1528 in Bern but were arrested, tried after the colloquy, and expelled from the city and canton. Seized the second time, Seiler was examined on 24 May 1529, with the two men mentioned above and held prisoner for two years longer. An account of the trial is found in [[Hansmann, Hans (d. 1529)|Hansmann, Hans]]. On 19 April 1531, he had a conversation with [[Pfistermeyer, Hans (16th century)|Hans Pfistermeyer]].
 = 2020 Update =
-The most recent scholarship indicates that Christian Neff confused Heini Seiler and Heini of Taegeren. Heini of Taegeren had the 1531 conversation with Pfistermeyer and subsequently recanted. The published sources (2008) for Aargau, Bern and Solothurn show that Seckler (Hansmann), Treyer (Dreier) and Seiler (here called "the one from Aarau," but previous imprisonment documents make clear that it was Seiler) were all condemned to death by drowning on 8 July 1529 by the Bernese council. Martin Haas, the editor of these sources, clarified that there has been some scholarly controversy about whether the sentence was actually carried out. He had reviewed the evidence, concluding that yes, it was carried out, citing as convincing evidence a letter from [[Haller, Berchthold (1492-1536)|Haller]] to [[Bucer, Martin (1491-1551)|Bucer]] mentioning the drowning.
+Heini (Heinrich) Seiler, an Anabaptist martyr, a hatter from [[Aarau]], [[Switzerland]], suffered death by drowning at [[Bern (Switzerland)|Bern]] on 8 July 1529 together with Hans Seckler (also known as [[Hansmann, Hans (d. 1529)|Hans Hansmann]]) and [[Dreier, Hans (d. 1529)|Hans Dreier]] (Treyer). [QGTS III, #399; #402.] He was one of the eight Anabaptists who took part in the great religious colloquy of 1528 in Bern in May 1527 [QGTS III, #341; 342]. After the colloquy, he was expelled from the city and canton. Seized a second time, Seiler was examined on 24 May 1529.  [QGTS III, #396] Seckler and Dreier were examined a few days later, 7 June 1529. [QGTS III, #398]. On 8 July 1529 a death sentence by drowning was pronounced against all three and appears to have been carried out that same day. [QGTS III, #399, note 6; #402]. Two years later, [[Pfistermeyer, Hans (16th century)|Hans Pfistermeyer]], in the process of recanting his Anabaptism, had a conversation in prison with a "Heyni" on 21 April 1531. This "Heyni" subsequently recanted along with Pfistermeyer. [QGTS IV, 60-65]. Martin Haas concluded that "Heyni" was most probably Heini Steffan, or perhaps  Heini of Taegeren, who had the 1531 conversation with Pfistermeyer.  [QGTS III, #156, note 1; QGTS III, #132, n. 1] The most recent scholarship thus indicates that when [[Neff, Christian (1863-1946)|Christian Neff]] named Heini Seiler as Pfistermeyer's prison companion in 1531, he confused Heini Seiler (already deceased) with Heini Steffan.
 = Bibliography =
 Braght, Thieleman J. van. ''The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs' Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus Their Saviour . . . to the Year A.D. 1660''. Scottdale, PA: Herald Press, 1951: 1129. Available online at: [http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm].
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 Müller, Ernst. ''Geschichte der Bernischen Täufer''. Frauenfeld: Huber, 1895; reprinted Nieuwkoop : B. de Graaf, 1972: 44.
 = Bibliography for Update =
-Haas, Martin, ed. ''Aargau – Bern – Solothurn.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 3. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 2008: #132, #399, p. 208.
+Haas, Martin, ed. ''Aargau – Bern – Solothurn.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 3. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 2008: #132, #156, #341, #342, #396, #398, #399, #402.
 Haas, Martin, ed. ''Drei Täufergespräche.'' Quellen zur Geschichte der Täufer in der Schweiz, Bd. 4. Zürich: Theologischer Verlag, 1974: 60-65.
+{{GAMEO_footer|hp=Vol. 4, p. 498|date=1959|a1_last=Neff|a1_first=Christian|a2_last=Snyder|a2_first=C. Arnold}}
 [[Category:Persons]]
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 Heini (Heinrich) Seiler, an [[Anabaptism|Anabaptist]] martyr, a hatter of Aarau, Switzerland, who suffered death by drowning at [[Bern (Switzerland)|Bern]] in July 1531 together with Hans Seckler and [[Dreier, Hans (d. 1529)|Hans Dreier]]. He was one of the eight Anabaptists who had planned to take part in the great religious colloquy of 1528 in Bern but were arrested, tried after the colloquy, and expelled from the city and canton. Seized the second time, Seiler was examined on 24 May 1529, with the two men mentioned above and held prisoner for two years longer. An account of the trial is found in [[Hansmann, Hans (d. 1529)|Hansmann, Hans]]. On 19 April 1531, he had a conversation with [[Pfistermeyer, Hans (16th century)|Hans Pfistermeyer]].
 = 2020 Update =
-The most recent scholarship indicates that Christian Neff confused Heini Seiler and Heini of Taegeren. Heini of Taegeren had the 1531 conversation with Pfistermeyer and subsequently recanted. The published sources (2008) for Aargau, Bern and Solothurn show that Seckler (Hansmann), Treyer (Dreier) and Seiler (here called "the one from Aarau, but previous imprisonment documents make clear that it was Seiler) were all condemned to death by drowning on 8 July 1529 by the Bernese council. Martin Haas, the editor of these sources, clarified that there has been some scholarly controversy about whether the sentence was actually carried out. He had reviewed the evidence, concluding that yes, it was carried out, citing as convincing evidence a letter from Haller to Bucer mentioning the drowning.
+The most recent scholarship indicates that Christian Neff confused Heini Seiler and Heini of Taegeren. Heini of Taegeren had the 1531 conversation with Pfistermeyer and subsequently recanted. The published sources (2008) for Aargau, Bern and Solothurn show that Seckler (Hansmann), Treyer (Dreier) and Seiler (here called "the one from Aarau," but previous imprisonment documents make clear that it was Seiler) were all condemned to death by drowning on 8 July 1529 by the Bernese council. Martin Haas, the editor of these sources, clarified that there has been some scholarly controversy about whether the sentence was actually carried out. He had reviewed the evidence, concluding that yes, it was carried out, citing as convincing evidence a letter from [[Haller, Berchthold (1492-1536)|Haller]] to [[Bucer, Martin (1491-1551)|Bucer]] mentioning the drowning.
 = Bibliography =
 Braght, Thieleman J. van. ''The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs' Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus Their Saviour . . . to the Year A.D. 1660''. Scottdale, PA: Herald Press, 1951: 1129. Available online at: [http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm].

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 Heini (Heinrich) Seiler, an [[Anabaptism|Anabaptist]] martyr, a hatter of Aarau, Switzerland, who suffered death by drowning at [[Bern (Switzerland)|Bern]] in July 1531 together with Hans Seckler and [[Dreier, Hans (d. 1529)|Hans Dreier]]. He was one of the eight Anabaptists who had planned to take part in the great religious colloquy of 1528 in Bern but were arrested, tried after the colloquy, and expelled from the city and canton. Seized the second time, Seiler was examined on 24 May 1529, with the two men mentioned above and held prisoner for two years longer. An account of the trial is found in [[Hansmann, Hans (d. 1529)|Hansmann, Hans]]. On 19 April 1531, he had a conversation with [[Pfistermeyer, Hans (16th century)|Hans Pfistermeyer]].
 = Bibliography =
-Braght, Thieleman J. van. <em>The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs' Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus Their Saviour . . . to the Year A.D. 1660</em>. Scottdale, PA: Herald Press, 1951: 1129. Available online at: [http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm].
+Braght, Thieleman J. van. ''The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs' Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus Their Saviour . . . to the Year A.D. 1660''. Scottdale, PA: Herald Press, 1951: 1129. Available online at: [http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm].
 Hege, Christian and Christian Neff. ''Mennonitisches Lexikon'', 4 vols. Frankfurt &amp; Weierhof: Hege; Karlsruhe: Schneider, 1913-1967: v. IV, 148.
-Heiz, J. <em>Die Täufer im Aargau</em>. Aarau, 1902: 11-13.
+Heiz, J. ''Die Täufer im Aargau''. Aarau, 1902: 11-13.
-Müller, Ernst. <em>Geschichte der Bernischen Täufer</em>. Frauenfeld: Huber, 1895; reprinted Nieuwkoop : B. de Graaf, 1972: 44.
+Müller, Ernst. ''Geschichte der Bernischen Täufer''. Frauenfeld: Huber, 1895; reprinted Nieuwkoop : B. de Graaf, 1972: 44.
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+= Bibliography for Update =
 [[Category:Persons]]
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 Braght, Thieleman J. van. <em>The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs' Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus Their Saviour . . . to the Year A.D. 1660</em>. Scottdale, PA: Herald Press, 1951: 1129. Available online at: [http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/index.htm].
-Hege, Christian and Christian Neff. <em>Mennonitisches Lexikon</em>, 4 vols. Frankfurt &amp; Weierhof: Hege; Karlsruhe; Schneider, 1913-1967: v. IV, 148.
+Hege, Christian and Christian Neff. <em>Mennonitisches Lexikon</em>, 4 vols. Frankfurt &amp; Weierhof: Hege; Karlsruhe: Schneider, 1913-1967: v. IV, 148.
 Heiz, J. <em>Die Täufer im Aargau</em>. Aarau, 1902: 11-13.